Death is fascinating. It is exciting and fascinating and totally wonderful.
I've been listening for a long time that my beliefs affect my life. I guess he simply thought that some kind of different rules applied after death. I am a little surprised to hear that even after death, I am creating my own reality.
So I am glad that we are having this conversation.
Wait a minute. What can you say about my father? My father believed that nothing happens after death. Nothing at all.
If you die with the certainty that there is NO life after death, once you realize that you have died you will immediately move to stage two, which will be the experience that there is no life.
How can I experience "no life"?
You will not experience anything at all. There will simply be no experience. Things will continue to happen, but you will not be able to perceive them.
It would be exactly as it would be now if you were sleeping while things continue to happen around you.
So there is no hope? My father died with the absolute certainty that there was nothing, no life of any kind, no experience, whatever it was, after death. so. There is no hope for him.
Again, when you die with that certainty, it's like falling asleep. In order to experience something else, you simply have to wake up.
How can you wake up?
The good news is that everyone wakes up. As in earthly life you would not always be asleep, so, also, you will not remain in the unconscious dream forever in the other life. That is not the plan.
The soul will wake up through the care of loved ones and angels. Then he will wonder where he is, because nothing happens, what has happened. It will begin to put two plus two together, and at that moment the soul will move to the conscious consciousness of stage two of death.
How will that be? How did dad experience?
What he chose to experience then.
Something he wanted to create? Anything at all?
Of course yes. But if there is confusion, the experience can be a bit confusing. A jumble of quickly created scenarios that may or may not make sense.
That doesn't sound very exciting.
Do not worry. It is not a "bad" thing. It is simply about getting redirected. It's like quickly zapping on television channels with the remote control. There is nothing harmful in that. You just have to decide which “channel” you want to watch.
If you start to feel a little overwhelmed and start wishing you had some help, you will immediately notice those loved ones and angels and spirits that have been floating around you and serving you, waiting for you to realize that they are there .
In any event, you will soon decide on an image, of the thousands of images in your mind, and begin to create from there.
But now it is important for you to understand that none of the scenarios that I have finished tracing for you have something to do with Ultimate Reality. This is experienced in the third stage. The scenarios I have just described are the first two stages, the first stages, of your "experience after death."
Agree. So, in the first stage of "death" what happens is that I will realize that I am no longer my body. In the second stage of "death" I will move through whatever I have imagined or decided to happen when I "die." And in the third stage? Will you describe it to me now? What will happen to me then?
You will unite with the Essence and begin to experience the Ultimate Reality and the Core of Your Being.
You mean, god?
You can call the Ultimate Reality any way you want. Some people call it The Essence. Some people call it Ala. Some people call it The All. No matter what you call it, it's the same thing.
What if this is exactly what I always thought would happen?
What if this is exactly what you always thought would happen?
What if what I always thought would happen immediately after my death was that I would be immersed in God? Wouldn't this be experienced then in the second stage of death?
Your IDEA on what will be experienced in the second stage, yes. This is because in the second stage of death, you continue to function from your mind.
This will be as pleasant and an experience as glorious as you can do it, in your imagination. But then, in the final stage of death, you will have the experience as it really is, not as you imagined it would be.
But you are right. You're catching it. If what you always thought would happen is what immediately after you die you will be at Home with God, you will be.
This is the greatest hope in the world, and it is true.
My mother had no hope, she knew it. My mother knew that she would meet all the angels, and that she would be returning home.
And this is exactly what she experienced. Then he went to the third stage of death, and his imagination became a much broader reality.
Did she experience the presence of God? Were you there to welcome her?
I tell you, I am there to welcome everyone.
It is impossible to die without God. It will always be there.
I will hug you, comfort you, welcome you, and assure you that you are perfect just the way you are, and perfectly prepared to enter the kingdom of heaven . Then I will turn you toward the souls of your loved ones and angels, who will guide you through the rest of your path, within the spiritual realm. or what you might call the real sky, as opposed to your imagined sky. There you will do the work you went to do there.
Do I have to work in heaven?
Do not worry. It will be like playing. You will be playing in the gardens of the gods. It will truly be the cielo . I use the word work in the sense of carrying out what you set out to do .
And what is it that I intend to do in heaven?
When we get to our exploration of spiritual reality, we will take a look at that. You still have to know this now: you will not abandon my presence until I have made you, and you have answered, the Sacred Question.
The sacred question?
Yes But I would like to talk to you about it later. This could be the most interesting part of our conversation, and I want to put some building blocks in place first.
Okay. but now there are two things that you have said are very important and that you have postponed until later. Before you said you had an answer to a question that could really leave me in sock. You said you wanted to settle the previous work for it. Now you are telling me that you are going to reveal to me what is the Sacred Question. But only after you put some building blocks in place. So you have me really intrigued.
Well, death is intriguing. It is exciting and intriguing and totally wonderful.
So if God was there to receive Mam, tell me, what does God look like? I mean, when we meet, how can I recognize you?
How do you want it to appear?
Will I get the vision of you that I want to get?
Yes As in all things, you get anything you choose. Yes, yes, and once again, yes.
If you choose for me to look like Moses, I will look like Moses. If you expect me to look like Jesus, I will look like Jesus. If you want me to look like Mohammed, I will look like Mohammed. It will take whatever form you expect, or that makes you feel more comfortable in My Presence.
And what happens if I have no idea about what God is like?
Then I will be a feeling. It will be the most wonderful feeling you have ever had. You will feel as if you are immersed in a warm light bath, as if you were embraced by love.
Or you can feel as if you are wrapped in a cocoon, or suspended in a living container with no weight of absolute, unconditional acceptance. You will experience this same feeling if I first appear before you in some physical form. Finally, this form will merge into a feeling, and you will never need to see me in a particular model or form whatever they are.
Now remember what I told you. It is impossible to die without God, but it is not impossible to think that you are. You can think of anything you want in the second stage of death. So, the energy of my Pure Essence can surround you and you can choose to reject it, downplay the experience, you can call it hallucination, or ignore it at all.
I would never do that. Because I would do?
You have done it many times during your life. What makes you think you wouldn't do it after your death?
Because I will know better. When he's dead, I hope he knows better. Also, when I am dead, you will make it clear to me that you are God, and that I am loved, and that this experience I am having is you, welcoming me home.
Listen to me.
Death is a moment of creation. There is an adjustment of energy at the moment that you call "death" that makes a fine adjustment in the energy with which you enter at that moment, producing a doubling effect in the non-physical world in which you just entered, of so you can continue to have the experience you have been creating, even if you make the transition to another reality.
(The same process occurs at birth, only in reverse. When you are born, the energy that you have brought with you from spiritual reality is transformed into matter by this process of tuning energy, producing a doubling effect on the physical world where you just entered)
Remember what I said earlier: death is an entry door, and the energy with which you pass through that door determines what happens on the other side. Now you can re-create something new anytime you choose (just like you can do in life), but what you will find there, at the beginning, is what you expect to find there.
If you do not believe in God, and you enter death by not believing in God, God will be there and you will not experience God - as a continuation of what you have done during your life.
You have to know that God is present in order to experience God being present.
If you look at a flower and know that God is there, you will see God there. Otherwise, you will see nothing but a flower. You can even get to see a weed.
If you look into another's eyes and know that God is there, you will see God there. Otherwise, you will not see more than another human being. You can even get to see a villain.
If you look into your own eyes in a mirror and know that God is there, you will see God there. Otherwise, you will see only one person trying to imagine who is there. You can even see a person who does not have an answer to this question.
Do you mean that God does not rescue me from my own "ignorance"?
God is "rescuing you" every day from your own "ignorance." Did you know this?
I supposed.
You do?
Well, sometimes.
It is the same immediately after death. Some people know it, others don't know it. And as you believe, it will be done on you.
Uncle, what a message. I was certainly waiting for more than this. I was waiting for you to tell me that God's presence in the next life would act as an "annulment", erasing all obstructive beliefs and filling the moment with Absolute Glory.
God will fill the moment with Absolute Glory, because there is nothing more glorious than the Act of Pure Creation, and God will allow you to believe at the time of your death any experience you desire.
This is what happens in stage two of death. In stage three you will come to know a greater Truth about yourself - and then you will remember again how to create it. You are a part of the God we are talking about here. Even if you continue to imagine that you are not, you will continue to create whatever experience you want.
And consequently now, understand this: your first experience of life after death is something that you are creating here and now, and that you will continue to create it then and there, with your thought of it, and with your hope.
Does hope play a role?
Remember what I told you before. If you expect so much that someone will come to help you, you will be surrounded by your loved ones and angels. If you expect so much to meet Mahona, Muhammad will guide you. If you expect Jesus to be there so much, Jesus will be there. Or Lord Krishna. Or Buddha Or simply the Essence of Pure Love.
Hope plays a wonderful role in "death" and "life." (They are the same, of course). Never give up hope. Never. Hope is an affirmation of your plus something desire. It is the declaration of your greatest dream. Hope is thought, made Divinity.
Oh, what a wonderful statement! Hope is thought, made Divinity. What a wonderful statement more wonderful!
Since you like this statement so much, here is the “Formula of 100 Words for All Life” that I promised you.
Oh yes, one of your delayed promises!
Hope is the gateway to believe, belief is the gateway to know, knowing is the gateway to creation, and creation is the gateway to experience.
Experience is the gateway to expression, expression is the gateway to becoming, becoming is the activity of all Life and the only function of God.
What you expect, in the long run you will believe it, what you believe, in the long run you will know it, what you know, in the long run you will create it, what you believe, in the long run you will express it, what you express, in the long run you will arrive To be. This is the formula for a lifetime.
It is as simple as this.
I love it when information about life is given to us so succinctly. What a gift! Poets like Robert Frost gave us that gift. And song writers. And playwrights. And authors. And messengers and teachers. I love how another poet, Bevel Mueller, put it in a free metric poem titled "Hope."
She says hope "is the movement that runs from the eyes to the tail of a dog." Isn't it great? Isn't it that he just catches it? Here is a fragment of his extensive work:
HOPE.
.is the movement that runs
From the eyes to the tail of a dog,
it is the mouth that swells the lungs
of the boy who has just been born.
It is the singular gift
that we cannot destroy in ourselves,
the argument that battles death,
the genius who invents the future,
Everything we know about God.
You experience a three-dimensional world, but you
You don't live alone in one. The last reality is more
complex of what you have never imagined.
Chapter 16
And then we return again to the idea that the state of a person's mind at the time of his death is the experience that his spirit will find in the "beyond."
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. I have said it again and again here.
Yes, but I have continued to review it again and again because something about that statement does not seem to settle well with me, and I have been trying to guess what it is. Now I think I already have it.
Tell me please.
That idea does not leave much room to comfort people who are approaching death without hope - who are themselves in a state of fear or fear or worry or self-recrimination or doubt - nor for their relatives.
I see. I see where you are going.
Well, I mean, not many people die peacefully and as wonderfully expectant as it seems you suggest it would be necessary for them to have a glorious experience. I would think that more people die in ... what would be the word? - concern at least, if not fear or dread or confusion or impressed by the sudden, as in an accident, or any ..
I understand your concern. Even comfort comes from knowing that the spirit finds peace and joy and love. All spirits move the third stage of death, at the time of joining with the essence.
At the same time, not something like "pain" - emotional, physical, or spiritual - after death. I mentioned earlier that even those who imagine that they are going to go to "hell" and then send themselves there do not suffer. They simply observe themselves having the experience, but without any emotional connection.
You said it was something like watching an educational video.
That is, that is the level of disconnection there is. You simply give yourself the experience in order to review it, pulling it from any wisdom there is to extract it, but you do not suffer. In life after death there is no such thing as "suffering."
So what's over there? There is something? Is there bliss? Is there happiness?
That is all there is, There is nothing negative.
Nothing negative?
Nothing of that.
But I thought you said that the person experiences exactly what he hopes to experience.
That's right.
So what if the person expects to suffer? What about the person who chooses to suffer, who feels that it is the only way they can "win their trip" to heaven, or "pay for their sins"? I thought you said that a soul can experience whatever it wants to experience after death.
What I said is true, and so you could experience suffering ... except that you will not be able to.
Because as you said before - you would just be watching, and not identifying with the "me" that is experiencing it?
Yes, and also because although you could identify with the part of yourself that is experiencing it. You could not.
You realize that you are leaving me behind and I only see the dust ..
Let me remind you of something you said earlier, that I can explain all this more fully.
Yes, that would be very good, right now, a more complete explanation would be very good.
At the moment that anything happens that the spirit experiences as something it does not want, the only thought that is something it does not want causes the internal experience of the spirit that is instantaneously altered. And then there is no suffering. Not even for the person who mightily imagine that he or she should be punished. They could create the experience in their imagination, but they will not experience it as they imagined, for the simple reason that as soon as they have the experience, they will choose not to have it.
Even if they think what they really want?
The level of consciousness after dying, prevents the possibility that anyone was intentionally choosing what is not real. And the spirit will be able to know and understand immediately that the concept and the idea and experience of sufcimiento is not real.
In the first stage of death, the spirit comes to understand that the body with which it passed its physical life is not real. That is, it is not who the spirit really is. In the second stage of death, the spirit comes to understand that the mind, with all its thoughts, is not real. That is, it is not who the spirit really is.
All thoughts of the limited mind of human experience are greatly impacted in the second stage of death precisely because the perspective of the spirit after death is much greater and so different from what it was when The spirit was in the body.
It is from this place, from this better perspective, that the spirit begins to create and experience itself. As soon as the spirit sees and realizes that it is not the body, its perspective changes a lot, as you could imagine. This is really what propels the spirit into the third stage of death, when all thoughts not only the bad ones thinking, but even the thoughts of the cie They fall apart and the last reality is experienced.
And then, even in the case of the person who sincerely believes that he has to suffer, that he deserves to suffer, that suffering is the only way to redeem himself in the eyes of God, the only idea of redemption, and suffering as a way to achieve it, becomes something unimportant with the broad perspective of the spirit.
The spirit can look at itself trying to suffer in its own self-created hell, but the spirit will soon discover and see that this experience makes no sense to create it.
He didn't think anything was impossible for a spirit that is expressing itself as the creator of its own reality.
It is not a matter of it being impossible. It is a question that makes no sense. The spirit would have no reason to create certain experiences beyond the fact of remembering that it is involved. Once the spirit has remembered that suffering is not a reality, but only an experience created in the human mind, it will have been able to achieve what it sought to achieve with the creation of its own hell, and the experiences then will not make sense.
This is because, in a sense, the spirit "knows too much" to get something more out of those experiences. It would be like a magician performing his acts over and over again - for an audience of one person: herself.
I would think it would be very difficult for a magician who remained interested in his own acts of magic.
It would be more than difficult. It would be impossible. It is in that sense, in that context, one could say that it would be impossible for a spirit to suffer.
But not even for a little moment? Not even when I was deciding to be interested or not?
No. Absolutely not.
There is no such thing as "the smallest moment." Your question lies within your reality of which you call "time, " where things happen sequentially. And so all the things that I have described that happen to the spirit after death happen at the very moment.
Wait a minute. You yourself have said that it happens in "stages", first stage, second stage and so on.
That is correct, according to your terminology. Even so, these stages are experienced simultaneously - with each new experience "erasing" the old one. And so it seems like the old one never happened. You "are" what "you are" right now, and it's as if you were never anything else.
Sorry, that makes no sense. You have stopped making sense here.
The challenge here is how to speak in earthly terms of a situation or experience that is outside this world. Let me just say that all things happen sequentially and simultaneously.
That makes less sense! Things happen either sequentially OR simultaneously. They can't be both.
They can not?
I am telling you that all life is both.
Is all life "sequentially" and "simultaneously"?
That's right.
Well, okay, this is breaking my head. I can't fit that in my reality.
Can you conceive the possibility? Can you narrow your mind to be able to conceive the possibility?
There is no other word for this experience in your language, so we will have to create one. We are going to say that all life is "secondhand." This is "sequential" and "simultaneous" at the same time.
I do not know what to say. I guess everything and nothing is possible, and I am willing to admit that I don't know everything there is to know about Ultimate Reality, but I can only go so far. Although I can go there conceptually, I can't imagine being there experimentally. I can't imagine the experience of that.
Let me see if we can find other words - some "real" words - with which you could be explained, or made clearer at least.
Well, because I need help here, and I need it immediately. Or would I say secondarily ..
Perfect, that's perfect!
Now, imagine with me a reality where time does not exist. Not the way you imagine. There is only one moment. The Golden Moment of Now.
Everything has already happened. It's happening now, and it will always happen - it's happening right now.
This is true of all your lives, not just the part of your experience that you call This Particular Life, or the life after Death. The difference is, in life after death, you know it. You experience it.
It's okay. But for a second. You have said that all my lives are happening simultaneously. You mean all my incarnations, right?
Yes. But I also want to say all of the many passes through this incarnation.
You mean I went through this life more than once?
That's right. And many possibilities, many experiences take place simultaneously.
But if everything is happening simultaneously… that means there should be “alternate realities.” Are you telling me that there are things like “parallel universes” running along ours, in which the “me” that is “me” Are you having other experiences?
So is.
Well, you told me at the beginning that some parts of this conversation would seem like "nonsense" to people, and you're clearly keeping your promise. Many people will say that the last scenario is just pure science fiction.
And it is not. As I said earlier, this is science.
Is this, too, science? Is talking about alternate realities science?
Do you think you live in a world of only three dimensions? Ask a physicist in quantum about that.
Do we not live in a three-dimensional world?
You experience a three-dimensional world, but you do not live in one.
What does that mean?
It means that Ultimate Reality is more complex than what you could have imagined. It means that more things are happening here than they look with their eyes. I tell you that ALL possibilities exist all the time. You are choosing the possibility that you want to experience now from a multidimensional field of infinite possibilities. And there is another "you" making different decisions, right here and right now.
Other me?
That's right.
Are you saying that "I" exist multidimensionally?
So is.
Neale Donald Walsch.
Death: fear of attachment?
Part of the Spanish translation of Neale Donald Walsch's latest Book.
His title is HOME WITH GOD
