Table of contents hide 1 INTRODUCTION 2 “You will know them by their works” 3 INDEX 4 5 6 1. AUDIO INTERVIEW 7 2. PANCHITO VIDEO PLAYING THE DRUM 8 3. LITERALLY TRANSCRITED INTERVIEW 9 4. MY MORALEJA 10 “The union in the flock forces the lion to go to bed hungry ”11 Interview with the shaman Panchito and his messages for Humanity

INTRODUCTION

At the beginning of August 2008 we received a phone call from a Reiki teacher and friend: Covadonga Rosete: “You have to go to a town in Teruel to see a shaman but before 8 of 8 of 08 and with your son Samael”.

We doubt it very much: What has been lost to us on a lost mountain and with some man who will be half crazy or enlightened? But out of respect for our counselor, out of curiosity and for a push from the Soul we went on an adventure.
We did not expect what we found there. It was a camp so fused with Nature as austere where people of all kinds and conditions go to understand, heal, learn, be surprised ... And they live there with Panchito's companions: 25 cats, several dogs and a wolf.

Panchito, of a Spanish father and Mexican mother, is the heir of an important and ancestral lineage of shamans and impresses upon seeing him. To the imposing presence seen in the photo, we must add a deep voice, a strong character and his unpredictable words, direct and sometimes abrupt. But under the hostile facade, there is a generous and loving person who has given his life to the Service to others and one of whose missions is to help raise awareness.

Your home is open to anyone, every day of the year,
all hours of the day and night and altruistically.

We went without expectations and there we received some answers to vital questions in our life (which we have not yet been able to digest completely), the magical energy of those special days and the gift of an excellent healing technique that we were taught there.

We leave richer and brighter than when we arrived.

But it seems that Destiny did not want this to remain as a mere personal anecdote, but months later it has given us the opportunity to interview Panchito and be, on this occasion, the messengers of his councils for Humanity in these cloudy moments of change.

"By their works you will know them"

This interview is the Way - the teachings that Panchito shows us and this photo is the real road to his house-camp:

We want you to bring inspiration and Light

INDEX

1. Audio interview: 1 hour
2. Video of Panchito playing the drum: 3 18
3. Literally transcribed interview
4. My moral

1. AUDIO INTERVIEW

We recommend everyone LISTEN to the interview and feel it from the heart because Panchito's voice is full of nuances and transmits his messages very well. The recording has 2 interruptions because Panchito, which is always available if you need it, answers phone calls.

It lasts 1 hour.

After the recorded interview, Panchito also commented on interesting topics that we have included with his consent. They are in the transcript (chapter 3) shaded: they are questions 6.1 and part of 36.

2. PANCHITO VIDEO PLAYING THE DRUM

We also recorded Panchito before the interview by drumming and waving at the Sun. It is his way of giving the ue Good morning and charging the batteries in the morning.

3. LITERALLY TRANSCRITED INTERVIEW

NOTE: The answers that do not appear in the audio are shaded: 6.1 and part of the 36.

1. Not all people know what a CHAMAN is. Can you explain what exactly a shaman is?

A shaman, from my point of view and my understanding, is that person who has chosen himself. That, through internal silence, he has connected with his Being and is able to travel with his Being and receive knowledge and information from the entire Cosmos to help Humanity.
It is that human being who never knows what he knows or why he knows it, only when he needs knowledge, having the people who need it in front, that wisdom and knowledge always come out. That would be a shaman.

2. How many shamans exist on Earth today?

I don't know any physically

3. And what is the role of a shaman in the 21st century?

The role of the shaman in the 21st century would be that of liaison. The link between consciousness and unconsciousness of all Humanity.

The why? Let's say that in this case the shaman of the 21st century would be the warrior of the light that comes as a link to transport the light to everyone who needs it. That would be the shaman of the 21st century. The rest are courses to get money and fool people.

4. One of the best known shamans is DON JUAN MATUS from Carlos Castaneda's books. Did you meet him What unites you and what separates you?

Yes. One of the greatest Masters in all history for this Humanity is Jesus Christ, Jesus, and those who have come behind?

We simply look at what they have informed us, what they have told us. Why don't we find out the Truth ourselves?

Shamans are all, healers too, Teachers too, students too. Although they put titles.

What unites me with Don Juan Matus? A parallel path in the search for the flight of freedom of the spirit.

And what separates us? I'm here. It still separates me a lot.

5. And who is Panchito? and where is your tribe?

Panchito is a human being who, like many of his generation, had to have awakened in the year 72 with conscience, with an impetus of freedom and a spirit in freedom to break with all the established molds and archetypes of the whole society. The problem, we were not allowed by society, nor were we.

A human being who got hooked, like many of his generation, on sex, drugs and rock and roll. But he really saw the darkness in a black well and took momentum reaching the bottom to get out of it all.

After leaving all this, another different human being was reborn. He managed to stop drugs, alcohol, diseases, veterinary men and their pills. He began to believe in himself, in loving Mother Earth, in loving all existing forms of life because in some way everything communicated, he was part of me. In that total integration, an infinite love for all Humanity was truly reborn. To Mother Earth too, but a rejection of this consumerist society that really prevents us from taking the freedom to be a HUMAN BEING, simply a human being.

And that is not only up to Panchito, it is up to everyone. As you can see, Panchito could be anyone.

Where is my tribe? On planet Earth. The obligation of Panchito, and the duty of Panchito and the feeling of Panchito, is to unify all races, cultures, religions and peoples, within Panchito and at the same time within each one, of each human being. I think we each came here with a choice. The choice of learning to be a human being. The human being that the Creator always wanted for his children, but we were wrong. Nobody is perfect.

6. How did you end up on the hill near CASTELLOTE, a lost town of TERUEL: a popularly undervalued and politically forgotten province of Spain?

I follow my inner voice. I follow an impulse of the Way and Destiny. There are people who sit waiting for Destiny to reach them. I decided to meet him. It was more direct, after all everyone has to create their own Destiny.
It was the Rainbow and Destiny that attracted me here. I used to live in a stone village, the last Celtic fort in Europe, in Sanabria (Zamora, Spain). Me and my 18 dogs. But I never thought that hunting and energetic or cybernetic (hunting) society of animals moved so much money. They threw me out of town setting it on fire. And he brought me here.

Here the Rainbow gave me the answer. Here they gave me this house, a retirement I never looked for and a life I was looking for when I left the other one I was leaving.

For me, my life has been, let's say so, one part in the underworld and another in the Divine Light. But you can't know one, if you don't know the other before. First you have to enter a black well, reach the bottom to gain momentum to get out of it. If you resist, you cannot leave. You must go out.

This is why I arrived at this specific place. In a way, it is here the central, central point chosen to be able to receive people who come here from everywhere.

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6.1. Is this area you have chosen to live a Templar zone?

This is not just a templar zone. It is the heart of the Temple. From here the entire Order of the Temple expanded. But the Order of the Temple was not what History tells us. I will explain this a bit:

The Templars were an Order of Cavalry whose best known purpose was the unification of races, cultures and religions. But its true function, its most sacred objective, was to protect and venerate Faith in the Mother. And, Mother does not understand family separations, but children, that is why she embraces them and unifies them all.

Those monks who created the Order of the Temple, at the same time became warriors: the wise monks were forced, to defend their faith, to draw a sword, and all this because their words were not heard. It was after this that the Temple army was created, that yes is the one you know, the one that you have been told.

There is much fanaticism and idolatry in the world. With half of the religions of this planet they have done the same. As we lost that faith, that awareness, we have been educated in half lies and half truths, even with the history of the Templars. Why don't you listen to a Templar warrior? You just have to call him in meditation and tell them the truth about the Order of the Temple.

Due to the power that the Order of the Temple came to obtain, and to the fear that, as a consequence of this power, the external institutions took, these conspired to take them out of the way, and so it was. But if it does not become because they betrayed them, not even the army of all kings could have with them. But it had to be that way.

From here, from all this region, the Order of the Temple expanded throughout Europe to Jerusalem, there they were also. And in South America too, who do you think brought the black virgins to Europe? The Vatican? The Kings of Spain? They had no idea of ​​this.

In this present time, in this area where I live, I have found many interior caves where The Mother was venerated by those warrior monks, they worshiped the Mother Goddess, the Mother of all.

7. What is the role of Spain in the current historical moments?

If you look at Spain, it is the entrance to Europe. Let's say it like this, it would be the heart of a new unification of races, cultures ... because here all races, cultures and peoples are being unified and mixed.

Spain would be, the heart of unification, and of this new hope and freedom for Humanity.

Something that politicians do not usually see, they only see a mass, a multitude of people who come to seek life. But they have created, let's say it like that, it is the "so-called bounce": if I open the door because I need workers and I don't do it properly, I'm calling everyone. That is what politicians have done so far. However, the role of Spain, for me, can be very important and decisive in the whole planet.

If Spain learned, from its own mistakes and its own decisions and attitudes on the road, they would realize that Spain was living under the protection of the whole world with open hands. Now he can't be racist. Now he has to accept and open heart and humility. And what you have to practice is TOLERANCE, not racism. That would truly be the role of the Spaniards, rather than of Spain of all Spaniards.

8. What is happening in the world? How does a shaman interpret today?

What is happening in the world is that people are waking up. As Panchito says when he speaks from the inner child: finally the seeds are maturing. And those seeds, waking up and maturing them, will help to awaken other human beings. That would be the most important work that all Humanity can do.

The world is living the path of the Initiate. On this path of spirituality, all Humanity would now be in the same place as an Initiate. That is, WE HAVE TO WAKE UP. Of many ways.

Many people do not understand, but if they looked at themselves and saw the change they are making in their customs, attitudes, knowledge and what is happening all around them, they will realize the change Who is living all Humanity.

All this change is to give Mother Earth and the rest of Humanity the opportunity to take its rightful place. For many eons of years, a lot of time, more than we could calculate here, of the entire galaxy every time a planet raised its vibration to change of consciousness and Light, those human beings who did not reach that vibration, embodied on the planet Schoolla that touched him, in this case the planet Earth. And here we are from across the galaxy. The good ones and the bad ones. Now we have to wake up.

And as I say, everyone has knowledge of what it means to be good and to love each other. There are libraries and libraries all over the planet. But what good is it for us to know?

The time has come to unify the physical body, the body of matter and the light of the soul, our spirit. It is no use having many books if we do not learn from them. It is no use having many Masters if we make deaf ears. Miracles are of no use if we do not want to receive them. That is what Humanity has to do.

I advise Humanity to make the decision to change. Each individually.

If you change everything you don't like,
change your house, change your family,
Change your town, your neighborhood, your city.
If we all change suddenly,
Change the entire planet. The society too.

This is what will happen. Because all this is preparing for that cyclical and cosmic change of a new era with consciousness.

9. What happens in 2012?

2012. What do we have to expect? It depends on us. But the best way to receive is to expect nothing.

If we do not expect anything and trust that what comes to us, we will know how to receive, it turns out that we find everything: light, peace, harmony, comfort and blessing.

10. What are the ERRORS of human beings according to your knowledge?

In my personal opinion, the biggest mistake of this Humanity is that they educated us badly. We were educated in FEAR, in suffering, in pain, in sickness, in sins, in lies, in hypocrisy. They weren't wrong, the wrong ones were already them. But they didn't teach us to decide. If they had taught us and educated us to decide, we would have understood from a very young age that we only have to live and enjoy living and loving the life we ​​live.

Because there is no choice. Our Being already made the choice when he gave us the opportunity to incarnate with a physical body to live it, to experience it. Now what we have to do is ALIGN US, align ourselves with that choice and that decision that our Being has already made.

If we make the decision to serve our Being, we are all doing what we have to do, which is what we came to experience. It's not about having more knowledge or being wiser.

The first thing we have to consider to understand ourselves from within is:

“I have a life that is a gift.
All I have to do is be myself
and what I feel carrying it out, but the moment I feel it ”

If we are ourselves, we learn to show ourselves, feel and think and decide for ourselves, not for what others tell us. That is the first obligation that all Humanity would have.

11. Why is Humanity in this situation and not living in an earthly paradise, without hunger and injustice?

The reason is this: IGNORANCE. They educated us precisely in ignorance. It is the war that all warriors of light have: fight ignorance. And all because, I think that darkness does not exist, it is simply a lack of light, it is ignorance.

But if you have ignorance and somehow, another human being helps you see that ignorance and you remedy it, there is no ignorance and there is no longer darkness.

Because where light and love comes, everything is light.

That would be the most important message for Humanity. Let them learn to be themselves with humility and simplicity and shine with their own light, not with the light of others, with theirs. And above all, that they learn not to grant their power to others. His power is his. The others already have them.

12. What is the true ROLE OF WOMEN in the changes that Humanity is going through?

Here you have asked a very nice question: what is the true role of women in the changes that Humanity is going through?

The most important role of women is to WAKE UP AS A WOMAN. Not only be a copy. Waking up as a woman but with creativity, strength, power, beauty, will and the drive and courage she has. May he regain his power. It is the most important of all: do not let yourself be repressed again.

The woman is the Mother of all Humanity. If the woman is asleep, the rest of her children cannot wake up because the education they receive from their mother is asleep.

If the woman realized the power so great she has with her own creative energy ... it is fertility and abundance. It is total prosperity. It is cyclical renewal for the entire planet. And the woman and the fundamental basis of all this is that she learns to be a COSMIC MOTHER, and for that she needs a re-education, a mental de-programming to be able, let's say, pick up the education she has in her own genes inside.

What do you get with that? Release the girl, your inner girl. Free the woman, the wife, the mother and the Goddess. And all in the same decision, in the same way, in the same will and the same price.

The only problem is: is the woman willing? Men are willing to help women because female energy is also carried by men.

But now we are very slave of male values. How can we escape?

You are slaves of yourselves. You have to break free, deprogram this. You should only give yourself the freedom to be yourself and pass over the whole society. It is making the decision and saying: “Hey, I don't like this life that I lead. I don't like this attitude. And now that I have observed myself, I will be myself, the woman that I feel I should be. ” And the moment she makes that decision and creates it herself, she becomes a pillar of faith and a pillar of decision and courage that nobody breaks.

That is why it is necessary for them to join in groups, in WOMEN'S CIRCLES. You know why? If you have a weakness and, let's put it that way, lower your self-esteem, if you are alone it will cost you to get up, but if you are in the Circle, the same Circle lifts you.

My intention is to teach women to work and form a group, a team as if it were a heart, a mind, a body and a group soul for all. That is the most important role that Humanity has, in itself all Humanity and the planet depend on that decision and the freedom of women.

13. Practical recommendations for ordinary citizens. What TIPS can you give to ordinary citizens, who work from sun to sun, with mortgage and other debts, and who have no more information than official propaganda? How can we improve our lives?

I am telling you, they have to be themselves and he who does not like the life he leads, may he change it!

Mortgages, all these are accommodations. You talk about debts, mortgages, working from sun to sun. They are accommodations. If they do not realize, the more mortgage, the more accommodation they have, the more money they will earn then more work. Yes, less will.

Here there is no humility in the life we ​​are leading. There is no simplicity. There is hypocrisy. Do you know the number of people who have a mortgage in an apartment that does not use it, do not enjoy it, do not live it, just go to sleep? And I say, why do they want the mortgage?

To eat? No, the mortgage is not for eating. For the banks to eat. To eat is food. The mortgage is a comfort simply to show off.

You know? When a human being is sleepy, all he needs is sleep and he doesn't care about sleeping in a palace on the floor. When the body asks to sleep, it is exhausted and needs rest, what it wants is to sleep. It doesn't matter where.

Do you have a mortgage?

Yes, we have an apartment because we need walls to live, but I will try not to have it, that is my way.

We all have 4 walls to live. But we also have something that we must change: the I and the Me.

There are many people who do not have mortgage floors. But don't give them to them, they don't want mortgage floors.

They just have to learn to be a human being with humility and simplicity and with an open heart. And believe me, you can perfectly live eating chickpeas even at Panchito's house that does not have a luxury apartment. That can be done by any human being.

Opening ourselves to our knowledge is simply that. It is to observe, listen to ourselves and what we don't like, change it.

14. WHO warns that by 2020 depression will be the 2nd disease in Western countries and "they" only offer us Prozac and similar drugs. What do you suggest not to fall for it?

This is going to be pretty. Tell me one thing, did you know that the disease does not exist?

I knew it was a disease path, a messenger.

Yes, for him he wants to see it, the disease is a liberation because it is an opportunity to release all that. But nobody wants to see it that way.

However, the disease is only ENERGY JAMS. As illness and suffering they do not exist. Neither physical nor mental. They are simply energetic spots that through our bodies have been materializing body by body until unconsciousness and ignorance of ourselves, they materialize in the physical body.

But, if at the time it materialized we were prepared and trained to listen to our body, we would know what is happening to it and how to prevent that from moving forward. If we did that and taught it to all those lords of the World Health Organization, the first thing they would say is: do not listen to them because They want to send us to unemployment, because we are the doctors and you are the sick ones. And I intend to demonstrate to those lords that it is not so, because what they call n sickness can turn the tortilla over and stop being sick.

There is only one problem for these pharmacological that if we do not turn the tortilla, we are the ones who burn. And so the tortilla is not used. Well, let's turn the tortilla around and if someone has to burn, it is after all, who are putting themselves at the service of Humanity for selfishness proper to they are they, not to serve humanity. From doctors, chemists, governments, and whatever they want.

Therefore, forget about the disease of 2020. If everyone wakes there will be no disease. We all go to Peace and Harmony.

15. How can we tune into the big change that is coming?

Flowing like a little fish to the changes that come to us every day. And the important thing is to forget tomorrow and yesterday and focus on the only moment that is true.

Yesterday has already passed, therefore it does not exist. Tomorrow does not exist either. WE ARE SIMPLY PRESENT, HERE AND NOW. And in the present here and now, if we flow instead of opposing resistance, neither the mind nor the body will suffer. We just have to flow like a little fish.

Do you know that fish are born in mountains and are happy and happy because they know that the sea is waiting for them to live an adventure?

Well the human being the same. He embodied in this physical body, in this vehicle that is his vehicle to live an adventure, not a nightmare as they are making us live.

That is, we are living an illusion upside down. We are turning it into a nightmare, where is the joy of being alive? That's what they have to do

16. And what is Panchito's role in this scenario?

Keep being Panchito. And with my feet on the ground, do not touch my balls because I want to be Panchito. And a crook.

But with my feet on the ground, I simply pretend that others who come to me or get to cross my path, simply see a brother on the road. Whoever wants to follow his brother and who doesn't, then turn around.

17. We are in SOL Y LUNA, your camp, which is an extremely austere and simple place. What can a place like this offer to those who come to know you?

Humility, light, love, peace and harmony. Luxuries no. But the rest, we have everything, even a store of patience.

18. What kind of people visit Sun and Moon and for what reasons? That look for? They find?

Well, like many human beings, those who seek and have tired of stupidly biting from ongoing course, from diploma to diploma, Teacher after Teacher that are useless. I would say to those Masters: “Get off the pedestal, gentlemen. Because I can remind you that Masters are all, students too. And by the way, that what has been given free, will have to retransmit for free because it is a gift of growth for all Humanity. And if not, they wouldn't have asked for it. ”

Those are the people who come here. Those who seek, those who have tired of being itchy. Those who listen to Panchito. Those who find a tool, something, someone to fill them, make them vibrate from the heart and follow it.

Instead of eating tapas from place to place without letting myself be fed, no, something comes to my heart that nourishes me, that feeds me, and I continue to feed. I stop searching.

Those who come to Sun and Moon, come to collect. They stop searching. That is called CHRISTIAN AWARENESS.

19. You have a 10-day program in groups of 12 people as an initiation towards Christ consciousness. What does it consist of?

I show people a path of Initiation through the places of power of Mother Earth so that they consciously learn to make the path for themselves. I simply help them to gather the integrity of their Being and their consciousness.

Why is it so simple? Due to the little time that Humanity has or that Humanity is given, it is very difficult for them to go inside to collect. Yes, they have many techniques to meditate, I would rather say many techniques to escape.

Here we teach people to meditate and collect the knowledge deposited in each place within themselves. As it is difficult for them to enter, here, as if it were a game, day after day they go inside. Total, when they want to realize after 10 days, they are connected with their Inner Being. That's the purpose.

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20. What does a person have to do to get here? Are you in the CAMPSA guide or rural tourism guides?

As Panchito says, I am not in the CAMPSA guide or in the travel guides, but the one who knows how to read the signs and be receptive, sure that one way or another, the key comes to get here. And if not, very simple, ask your Inner Being.

People who come here, can not come, let's say so, to have fun as if they were gossip to see what is here. Because I am not looking for anyone, but the Internal Being of each person gives them the answers that I ask them to get here.

One only has to learn to follow the signs and read them. It's very easy. The Cosmos helps us all.

The problem is: who is willing to open up to the Cosmos? You are?

Yes
I also

21. Are you not afraid that an avalanche of people will come in search of sensations and something exotic, and not of a pure heart?
The avalanche of gossips will not arrive.

22. Do you take ayahuasca or enterogenic substances in work with you?

I don't know what others will do, but here hallucinogenic or enterogenic substances are NOT taken, nor ayahuasca, nor San Pedro, nor mescalito, nor peyote.

The why.? Very easy. If I teach them and show them a way to free themselves and work with the spirit, if we are all energy and we all leave the same source of Life, all even the lively form of plants, animals, minerals, we all leave there., if one joins with his Being entirely towards Unity, he is already part of everything. And working with the spirit of the plant, as I work, I don't need to consume any plants. But neither me nor anyone.

Plants are power plants but they also have, let's say so, a power effectiveness when they are not honored with respect. Humans who are consuming ayahuasca foolishly or other opiates without honoring or working directly with the spirit of the plant, are growing in an ego of power that is devouring them. That power animal is consuming them.

Yes, all right, you can connect with the Hereafter and see many extraordinary things. Yes, they simply keep the picture or the video. And why have they shown it? What have they shown it to? What do they have to learn from it? They are not interested: "I'm going to have fun."

Yo no juego a esos juegos. Primero porque yo tengo consciencia de que trabajo con seres humanos, también con Alma entera, y no puedo ver sufrir a un Alma.

Además, llegó el momento de que los seres humanos, todos los guerreros de la luz que están despiertos se muestren, dejen de estar ocultos. Basta ya de ocultarse. Bien sea por familia, por represiones, por chorradas, por tonterías. ¿Tu no has crecido, tu no estás en paz contigo mismo, no te sientes un guerrero de la luz? Sí, pues a la calle.

Un guerrero de la luz tiene un deber que hacer: combatir la ignorancia.

¿A las barricadas?
Totalmente.

Por lo tanto, aquí no se toma nada de eso.

23. ¿Cuánto dinero cuesta la estancia en Sol y Luna?

Dinero no cuesta, solamente cuesta decidir venir a Sol y Luna. El llegar hasta aquí le cuesta a la persona esa decisión ya mi me permite recoger la bondad de la gente cuando cada uno dentro de su corazoncito valora aquello que aquí se le da. De ello vive Panchito.

24. ¿Y por qué lo haces? ¿Por qué ofreces tu tiempo y sabiduría altruistamente a los demás? ¿Tanto karma tienes?

Esta pregunta me ha hecho gracia: “¿Por qué lo haces? ¿Por qué ofreces tu tiempo y sabiduría altruistamente a los demás? ¿Tanto karma tienes?”

No cariño, no pienso que tenga karma. Pero yo, lo mismo que algunas personas que espero que haya más locos como yo en el mundo, que no yo solo, tenemos muy claro que nosotros elegimos SERVIR: servir al Plan Divino, a la Madre Tierra ya la Humanidad. No elegimos otra cosa. Y servir cuando se nos precise. No elegimos ni dónde ni cómo. Simplemente servir. Y en eso estamos. Altruistamente. Es que yo entendí que lo que el Cosmos me había dado gratis, era para toda la Humanidad, no era para mí. Por eso lo hago, porque me lo hicieron entender así.

25. Veo que hay miles de CUARZOS por toda esta zona estratégicamente colocados y dicen que estamos en la 5º dimensión. ¿Qué es la 5º dimensión?

Aquí hay muchos cuarzos. Tu misma me lo dices aquí. Yo estoy muy contento y satisfecho que esta casa sea un Templo y una parrilla de luz energetizadora para irradiar desde aquí a toda la Humanidad y al Planeta.

Cada uno de esos cristales de cuarzo que hay ahí, conoce el ser humano y el corazón del ser humano al que viene destinado a trabajar. Y ¿sabes que los cristales están trabajando con el ser humano aunque el ser humano esté en la otra panza del planeta? Aunque no esté aquí. Aunque esté dormido, están ayudándole. Es así.

Est n tratando de bajar y de unir Cielo y Tierra a trav s de los seres humanos. Eso es bajar 5 dimensi na la Tierra. O elevar la Tierra a 5 dimensi n, como lo quer is?.

Pues nos juntaremos a mitad de camino para que todos hagan el m nimo esfuerzo

26. Cu l es la labor de los cuarzos?

El papel de los cuarzos es limpiar, sanar, educar, instruir y activar. Unos activan y otros desactivan. Unos codifican y otros descodifican. En una palabra, son herramientas de re-educaci ny dig moslo as, de desprogramaci n psicol gica y mental. Y todo porque nos dieron unos educadores y educaciones err neas que est n llenas de arquetipos incre bles. Y todo ello para estropear una educaci n que tra amos.

Alg nd a, alguno de estos ni os les dir a sus padres: Gracias por ser mis padres, por haberme aceptado, por haberme educado pero no os puedo dar las gracias por la educaci n que me hab is jodido. Pues ahora tendr is trabajo: desprogramarse para poder recuperarla . Es decir, lo que estamos haciendo ahora nosotros: desandar el camino andado. Por tanta educaci n falsa.

(Suspiro)

27. En tu casa hay una foto de Omraam Michael Ainvanhov. Le conociste? Fue Maestro tuyo? Trabaj is juntos?

S, tengo una foto aqu de ly la verdad, no s quien lleg primero, si su Ser y su luz o la foto. Vive aqu conmigo. Aqu vivimos todos. Es lo bueno que tiene esta casa que yo estoy invitado en la casa de mi Padre, y aqu est n los hijos de mi Padre, todos. Dispuestos para servir a la Humanidad. Y aqu trabajan todos, desde plumas, cristales, plantas, animales, elementales: elfos, ondinas, aqu estamos todos. Al servicio de la Humanidad.

No, no le conoc .

S, me imagino que en alg n tiempo tuvo que ser mi Maestro y tambi n mi alumno. Tu tambi ny ly el resto de la Humanidad. Siempre somos los mismos.

28. Qui no qui nes son tus Maestros o gu as?

Mira, yo solo veo, siento y recibo energ a. No hay rostros, no hay nombres. Y si tuviese que poner o buscar un Maestro y un gu a ser a la luz del cristal. Esos cristales que tanto te llaman la atenci n ser an mis Maestros y mis gu as.

Yo paseando por encima de los cristales descalzo, a mi me han dado regalos incre bles. Ellos han sanado a Panchito, ellos despertaron a Panchito. Ellos han codificado, descodificado, programado, desprogramado Me han hecho nuevo. Ahora me encuentro m s joven ym s fuerte que nunca. A veces con m s fr o que un cristal, otras veces con m s fuego que un volc n.

Pero es la vida. Yo fluyo como un pececillo. Hoy tengo buen humor, canto. Estoy de mala leche, salgo corriendo, es igual.

29. ¿Eres amigo de Drunvalo Melchizedek? ¿Compartís Maestro? Uno de los suyos es Thot y el tuyo Hermes, ambos la misma entidad.

Yo no conozco a este ser. Fuera de esta casa, persona física no conozco a ninguna, personas energéticas sí, pero como les pregunto el nombre… Para mi todo es energía, todo es luz. Depende del color de la luz, la vibración que traiga sé moverme en las entidades estas.

¿Qué si compartimos Maestro? Me imagino que sí, al fin y al cabo, todos crecemos con lo mismo. ¿Te puedo hacer una pregunta?

¿Quién es Hermes Trismegisto?

Lo dijiste tu en agosto. El 3 veces grande, el 3 veces sabio. Una de las entidades más importantes, luminosas y amorosas del Universo.

Aja… Pues debe ser Maestro mío. Seguro, si tiene tanta luz, yo también.

30. Tocas el tambor, cantas y también he visto a tus colaboradores con cuencos de cuarzo. Háblanos de estos elementos.

Sí, trabajo con unos amigos. Mejor dicho, no trabajamos, colaboramos al servicio. Entre unos cuantos amigos decidimos unir nuestros instrumentos para crear la Espiral de Sonido, una espiral de sonido vibracional para elevar la consciencia, los miedos, … y ayudar, digámoslo así, a limpiar al ser humano. Y se trabaja pues muy bien, fantástico.

Yo toco el tambor, otros tocan los cuencos, tanto de cuarzo como metálicos, otros el violín, otros un saxo, una travesera, … Aquí somos como dirían ustedes de ciudad: una farándula. Estamos 3 ya veces 300. Pues sí, me encanta el sonido y la percusión.

31. Hasta aquí llegan muchas personas con enfermedades varias.

Dices que hasta aquí llegan muchas personas. Es cierto, llegan personas y muchas vienen enfermas. Es la mayor satisfacción y alegría que me han dado en estos años. Llegó un momento que en vez de venir personas buscando conocimiento, vinieron enfermos buscando sanación.

Les enseñé y les hablé de lo que era la desprogramación mental y luego, les mostré a cada uno lo que era la enfermedad y cómo quitársela de encima. Y ¡sabes que funciona¡.

Los que verdaderamente comprenden a Panchito son aquellos enfermos que están viviéndolo ellos mismos, cuando lo experimentan por si mismos y desprograman y desatascan todo su cuerpo, la enfermedad se da la vuelta. ¡No existe¡.

32. ¿Cómo sana Panchito a los enfermos vienen a Sol y Luna?

No sana Panchito. Panchito solamente es un canal al servicio de todos los hijos de la Luz Eterna, y son ellos los que trabajan a través de Panchito. Pero verdaderamente quien se sana es uno mismo.

¿Tu deseas sanarte? Si deseas sanarte, tu fe te sanará. Es como el teléfono, todo es polaridad y recíproco. Tu llamas a la luz y la luz viene hacia ti. Hace como un imán: te lleva hacia donde está la luz. Solo hay que fluir en ello. Es muy fácil

33. ¿Nos puedes hablar sobre los NIÑOS INDIGO, cristal, arco iris y tantos niños que son incomprendidos por sus padres, la escuela y la sociedad? ¿Quiénes son? ¿Cómo debemos criarlos y educarlos?

Esta pregunta tiene tela. ¿Quiénes son? Niños. ¿Cómo debemos criarlos y educarlos? Empecemos por RECIBIRLOS. Si cada padre y cada madre tomara conciencia de la satisfacción y la alegría y el regalo que es traer un hijo al mundo, y lo recibiera con los brazos abiertos en vez de quejarse tanto, tratando al niño con cariño, con paciencia, con dulzura, respeto como si fuese un adulto puesto que es un ser humano y hablándole despacito, todos los niños son comprensibles. Todos.

Pero hay un problema. El problema es que la mitad de los padres, por no decir todos, no se dan cuenta que el niño crece en el momento que es germinado. Mientras está creciendo dentro de su madre, el niño es consciente y recibe todo aquello que tiene en su entorno y alrededor, desde las inquietudes de sus padres, la armonía, desarmonía, discusiones, alegrías, tristezas, especialmente las emociones y sensaciones de su madre. Todo eso incumbe en la educación y personalidad de cómo nazca ese niño, de cómo ese niño sea recibido en este plano físico. Ahí empieza verdaderamente el trabajo de los padres con todos sus hijos. Hablo de padres, tanto el padre como la madre.

El ERROR más grande que puede hacer un padre es lo que están haciendo hoy en día los padres y esta sociedad. Es cargar su responsabilidad de padres como educadores en la sociedad y en la escuela.

Perdónenme señores padres, en la escuela no educan a sus hijos. Les preparan para gastar. La sociedad no educa a sus hijos. Les preparan para que sigan siendo sociales y consumistas. Los padres son los que tienen que dar la educación a sus hijos. Pero teniendo en cuenta que sus hijos aprenden perfectamente el EJEMPLO de sus padres.

34. ¿Y los adolescentes? Muchos andan desorientados en la vida y las cifras de consumo de alcohol y embarazos no deseados son altísimas ¿Qué nos dices sobre ellos?

Esta tiene miga también. Adolescentes desorientados y las cifras de alcohol y embarazos no deseados. Sí, es normal.

Nos quejamos de los adolescentes que tenemos y ¿no nos quejamos de la educación que nosotros les dimos? Les dimos una educación que no está basada en el amor porque si estuviera basada en el amor, no habría hijos no deseados. Si estuviese basada en el amor, no nos hubiesen enseñado a hacernos daño consumiendo alcohol u otras drogas. Especialmente en España que todo está permitido y legalizado. Se quejan del alcohol y lo siguen autorizando. Que se pongan de acuerdo de una vez. ¿Van a cuidar a la Humanidad? ¿Nos van a permitir ser seres humanos o simplemente votos? Para seguir cobrando, claro. Ese es el truco de los políticos. Cuantos más votos tengan, más millones cobran.

Por lo tanto, los adolescentes lo único que tienen que hacer es vivir su vida que han venido a experimentarla y cuidarse. Amarse uno a si mismo . Aprendiendo a amarse a si mismo, no se hace daño. Si están pasando por esto que le den la vuelta. Que aprendan a amarse a si mismos.

35. Te han hecho un blog llamado: DESANDANDO EL CAMINO ANDADO. ¿Qué queréis trasmitir con este nombre y qué tipo de información ofrece el blog?

Me hablas de un blog que han hecho unos amigos. Sí, un día hablando con los amigos les dije lo que yo entendía que es volver a la esencia de uno mismo. En esta vida hemos andado y hecho un camino. ¿Equivocado? Sí, pues ahora hay que ir para atrás. How? Desandando el camino andado.

Y los amigos se quedaron con ese nombre y han hecho un blog. El propósito del blog es compartir las experiencias que reciben aquí. Sus inquietudes, motivaciones, … todo lo que quieran compartir unos con otros, para eso se ha hecho el blog.

http://desandandoelcaminoandado.blogspot.com/

36. Nos recomiendas algún autor y algún libro para profundizar en las enseñanzas sobre la vida y espiritualidad.

Sí. Este: “LA RUEDA DEL TIEMPO” de Carlos Castaneda.

En “La rueda del tiempo” de Carlos Castaneda viene una síntesis total, digámoslo así, del conocimiento ancestral de los chamanes del pasado, que aunque ustedes no lo crean, es el conocimiento que todos tenemos dentro, pero ese conocimiento no es sabiduría.

La comprensión de ese conocimiento sí es sabiduría. Así que todos aquellos que están buscando más conocimiento, se están equivocando porque están buscando fuera un conocimiento que está cerrando el paso al conocimiento que ya traen dentro. Pero la comprensi n del conocimiento que ya tenemos dentro es lo que nos convierte en sabidur a, que es la herramienta del futuro y de este tiempo presente, claro.

Fuera de la entrevista, Panchito tambi n recomienda estos 2 libros:

ALFA DE ALFAS

EL LIBRO DE ORO DE SAINT GERMAIN

37. Te duele el mundo Panchito?

S me duele el mundo. Un d a tuve un sue o, con un mundo diferente. Un mundo lleno de luz, amor, comprensi n, donde no hac a falta estudiar idiomas porque solo hab a uno para todos, donde los ni os jugaban con los perros y con los rboles, donde no exist an enfermedades, donde no hab a ni m s ricos ni m s pobres, todos ramos iguales. Y sabes una cosa? Todos bamos vestidos de lo mismo. Ese es el mundo.

Me duele este mundo porque no es el que yo so, pero puede serlo, todo depende de nosotros.

Cada ser humano deber a hacerse una pregunta:
en qu mundo quiero vivir? qu mundo es el que yo quiero tener?
Y a partir de aqu, c mo puedo contribuir a que eso sea as ?.
El resto es f cil.

38. Te decepcionan los humanos?

Hasta cierto punto s . Me decepciona el comportamiento y actitud de esta sociedad que est impidiendo que despierten los seres humanos. Pero bueno, hay que aceptarlo, son humanos, lo mismo que yo.

Y decepcionar, bueno, tambi n me dan recompensas. Unos te decepcionan y otros te dan satisfacciones. Es un compendio, est equitativo, dig moslo as .

39. Ya tienes casi 60 a os Te compensa estar haciendo esto en vez de cobrando una jubilaci ny jugando al golf en el Mediterr neo?

Mira mi ni a, la jubilaci n ya me la pagan. No es muy grande, pero bueno. Lo de jugar al golf, creo que aprender a jugar al golf se llevar a toda la pensi n. No vale la pena.

Prefiero dedicar mi tiempo a ayudar a despertar a mis hermanos. Ayudarles a recordarles el amor que han olvidado me da m s satisfacciones que jugar al golf, adem s si eso es para pringaos gilipollas.

40. De qu depende que las cosas salgan como el Cielo espera?

Me haces una pregunta que tiene mucha miga. De qu depende que las cosas salgan como el Cielo espera? De que la respuesta sea escuchada.

Qu respuesta? Si cada ser humano se escuchara su corazoncito recibir a este mensaje: LA MADRE LLAMA A SUS HIJOS Y ESPERA SU RESPUESTA. De eso depende todo, de la respuesta de sus hijos. Y sabes una cosa? Yo tengo una respuesta para ellos: que quieran o no están condenados a salvarse. El problema es: ¿lo van a hacer en esta vida o dentro de 250.000 vidas?

A mi me da igual, yo me pienso ir para Casa.

41. ¿Cuál es la relación entre el libre albedrío y el destino colectivo de la humanidad?

Decidir. La Humanidad tiene que darse la libertad a si misma de ser libre. Solo tiene que DECIDIR. No elegir mentalmente. La elección ya la hizo su Ser. Solo tiene que decidir. Ponerse en alineación con él. Es así.

Cada vez que tu estás alegre y contenta, estás unida con tu Alma, con tu Camino. Cada vez que no estás así, estás desunida ¿verdad?

Entusiasmo significa: Dios en ti
Sí, y sería maravilloso que todo el mundo aprendiera y pudiese ver no solo la oscuridad de su Alma sino su parte divina, a lo mejor le ayudaría a su hermano a mostrársela. Sería estupendo.

42. ¿Confías en la humanidad? ¿Tienes esperanzas? ¿Cuál es tu pronóstico y tu deseo para el futuro?

Confio en la Humanidad porque deseo de todo corazón que cada uno se de la libertad de saltarse esta sociedad y las leyes físicas de esta Humanidad por encima.

Esperanzas, sí. Tengo esperanzas de que consigan su libertad. Que cada uno se de la libertad a si mismo de ser libre.

El pronóstico y deseo…, lo más bonito de todo. Mi amado Maestro Saint Germain me dio un consejo muy bonito. Diles Panchito que cada uno consiga sus victorias y que aquel que se caiga y desee levantarse, tiene la fuerza de todo el Cosmos para poder levantarse. Pero aquel que se quiera quedar sentado, que no pide ayuda al Cosmos porque ya está acomodado, ya está atascado.

Es muy fácil. Todos tenemos que entender que ya hemos elegido. Ahora nos toca decidir. Nuestro Ser ya eligió. Unos deciden seguir creciendo y evolucionando en el camino de evolución hacia el Ser. Es otra evolución distinta, ya no es causa y efecto, ya no es ley kármica, es una ley evolutiva. Y otros han decido quedarse como están.

La elección ya está hecha, ahora falta decidir. Y queda decidir que cada uno decida hacer el camino de su Alma, el camino de su Ser o el camino de comodidad física. La elección ya está hecha, la hizo nuestro Niño Interno.

Una esperanza muy bonita para la Humanidad es que cada uno abriera la puerta a su niño interno ya partir de ahí, volver a recuperar el sueño y la inocencia y la fantasía del niño. Y que nos permitan ser niños. Que nos equivocamos. Sí, bueno, si no hay errores, todo es perfecto. Venimos a experimentar. Y si no nos equivocamos, no experimentamos.

Te advierto que se caen muchos niños en el parque y las madres están alrededor. Se caen, y se levantan. Al caerse, miran a su madre, la madre no le presta atención, él se levanta y no llora. La madre sale corriendo a coger al niño y ya está llorando.

Pues ahora que se lo apliquen los adultos y si es posible que aprendan a soñar como los niños.

Gracias por la entrevista.

Gracias a ti ya Covadonga y Carmen Fernández por varias fotos

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