Interview with Gregg Braden, Pole Shift. February 2010, dc

  • 2010


Gregg Braden is today one of the writers who have best managed to combine science and spirituality . Known primarily for books such as " The Power of Prophecy " or " The Divine Matrix , " Braden explores in his work how old traditions and new scientific discoveries are unequivocally heading towards the same destination ...


Gregg Braden worked as an expert in computational geology for years for companies such as Phillips Petroleum or Cisco Systems , developing a solid career as a scientist and computer expert. But there came a time when he realized that there were prophecies that science was beginning to confirm little by little in our day ... like those related to polar inversion.

As you will see in the extensive interview that I present.

Today more than ever, what we have inside us is what we will find outside. If we manage to have a harmonious interior, if we find the love that is always at the bottom of the closet, we will be able to find the good feelings of others as well. And we will realize that there is no difference between you and me .

Is it true that the Earth's magnetic poles are in the process of change right now ?

In fact, from May-June-July 2002, scientific publications consider widely known and accepted for the first time that we are in a process of polar inversion.

In the 60s, geologists were sure that the land was going through such an investment periodically. They knew it by underground samples of ice and fossils, as well as by the magnetized particles that were locked in certain positions inside the terrestrial rocks.

Geologists were so sure of this phenomenon that they had in fact mapped the last four and a half million years, and the resulting records suggested that the land had gone through fourteen of these pole investments.

At that time, 1961 and 1962, scientists thought that the last polar inversion occurred towards the time of the last glaciation, ten to twelve thousand years ago. They were also sure that it would happen again, but not before several millennia, so there was nothing to worry about.
But in the 90s geologists began to perfect this type of information. It had been said that thousands of years were missing for this to happen again. They began by saying that, "Well, it can happen but within a few millennia."

But now there is recent evidence that comes from Antarctic and Greenland ice samples that shows that could happen again as soon as in a decade.

Now we know that currently the poles are moving. We are living it right now. We do not know exactly the meaning of this because, although it has happened fourteen times in the last four and a half million years, it had never happened with more than six billion people living on earth.

Are you saying it is widespread knowledge?

It is common knowledge among people who should know these things. For example, the regulations of the American Air Force say that when the poles move between five and eight degrees, the airport runways must be re-numbered to make the figures correspond to the magnetic paths that are n watching the pilots.

The first airport in the United States to meet this standard was Minneapolis / St. Paul, in which the order of eighty-five thousand dollars was invested to renumber and adapt the headwaters of the tracks.
But what happened in the temporal context of May-June-July 2002 is that journals such as Nature, Science, Scientific American and New Scientist published articles in which it was stated that we are definitely in an investment process Great, and the Associated Press agency notes picked it up.

Scientists have no idea what the impact of this will be on the electronic and electromagnetic force grilles. Moreover, they do not know what it will mean for the human immune system. Certain alternative healing modalities have demonstrated the connection between the immune system and magnetism, which could also lead to the fact that our immune systems could very well to be in tune with the earth's magnetic fields.

We know that birds and animals migrate along the lines of these magnetic fields. Hence it is speculated that the changes that are occurring in these magnetic fields are responsible for the change in the migratory patterns of birds that have been recorded in Asia and North America.
The change in the fields could also explain why the whales are stranding. The navigation lines that followed the whales have always changed and now lead them to the beach. When we return them to the sea and release them, they re-align with the same magnificent lines and, following them, end up again on the beach.

Therefore yes, it is of generalized knowledge. The most respected scientific journals say that we are already in this change. And although we do not know precisely what this implies, it is significant that it is being recognized by that class of proven literature and not only by speculative or pseudo-scientific journals.

When was this magnetic change first recognized?

It must have been around June or July 2002. People sent me emails informing them that they had seen it and giving me the references. I also found references in the magazines.

Will we survive a complete polar inversion?

Any answer to that question necessarily belongs to the realm of speculation, because in the history of traditional human records it has never happened.

On the other hand, there are native traditions and ancient Hebrew biblical traditions that suggest that there may have been a great change more recently than during the last glaciation. That was 10, 000 or 12, 000 years ago, but such traditions suggest that the last change may have happened as recently as 3, 600 years ago.

The legendary natives speak of a day 3, 600 years ago when the sun rose in the west as it had always done, staying in the sky for more than a whole day to set later in the east, but the next day it came out in the east and set in the west, as it does today.

Hebrew traditions also tell this event, adding that it happened during a battle. The ancient Hebrews took it as a sign that one side received celestial help because it was in the light enough to complete the battle in their favor.

We cannot verify this by rocks or fossil records because 3, 600 years is too short a time for such an event to be reflected in them. All we have are traditions, legends and myths preserved in written and oral documents.

However, what tradition tells us is that, if something like this were to happen, the people of the earth would survive it. You would live a really strange day but, if the old legends are true, that happened and the people apparently survived. But we do not know how did this affect their lives.

Do you have any idea about how this magnetic change could alter consciousness ?

Speculation is that there is a correlation between magnetism and consciousness. In order for us to understand how that connection might work, it is practical to compare it with the memory of a computer .
The magnetic fields of memory are held in place by an electric charge - a circulating charge - that is inside the computer itself. When the computer's batteries run out, the charge runs out and the memory is lost. We have to reinstall the operating system .

Similarly, both researchers and descendants of indigenous peoples believe that, when the earth goes through what science considers a magnetic inversion, it will also go through a huge change and cleansing of its consciousness. There will be nothing to support all those magnetic patterns that were installed. Therefore, when we are awakened by this change we will be aware of our true nature, our true essence. And the memory of all the bad, of all the bad things that have happened, all the resentment and the ego and what we have had against each other as individuals and as nations will cease to be part of that new consciousness, of That new grid.
From that point of view, many traditions predict, feel or speculate that we are approaching the time of what they call the Great Cleansing, and that this cleansing is taking place at the level of conscious central memory.

Then it is possible to assume that our memory is connected in some way with this magnetic field

I think. I believe it because of the strange stories of astronauts who left the earth and traveled to space during the Apollo Program.

When leaving the Earth's atmosphere and orbiting the planet many miles from its surface, the effects of Earth's magnetism on them were insignificant. And the astronauts began to have experiences for which they were not prepared or trained, completely unexpected experiences.
When they were in space and contemplated the earth, they began to have feelings and perceptions, awakenings and sensations that they never had when they were in it. This meant something different for each of them.

In a very similar way, my friends who were in Vietnam returned completely changed. That changed everyone. For some of them, the change was so painful that they could never even talk about it but, for the lives of others, that change was a catalyst and they talk incessantly about it.

And I think that there has now been a special program of the Public Broadcasting Service that documents this same phenomenon with the astronauts, who were never the same again later. When they returned, some did not know what to think of their experience in outer space.

Some people fall into alcohol and drugs. Others channeled the change that occurred in them through very positive projects that strengthened their lives.

One of the latter group was Dr. Edgar Mitchell, who founded the Noetic Sciences Organization in an effort to corroborate the phenomenon of human consciousness. Another astronaut undertook the search for Noah's Ark and ended up finding it in the ice of Mount Ararat, exactly where the Bible said it would be.

So the implication indicated is that these astronauts, due to having left the earth's magnetic field, have had some kind of spiritual awakening .

Of course they went through a catharsis when they were not influenced by the earth's magnetic field.
We see that something similar happens when we look at the earth's magnetic fields. Their presence on the earth's surface is not constant, and the available curve maps of the United States Geological Survey show the varying intensities of the magnetic fields on the earth's surface, where they are of a very high intensity and where they are of a very low intensity.

These fields have been changing over time and could actually account for why human populations migrated to the places they did. They must have been following these magnetic level curves.
What happens is that in places of very low magnetism, where the fields are practically negligible, innovations and tremendous changes seem to occur. Where magnetism is traditionally high, there are stagnation sites where changes, despite their occurrence, take a long time and then come very slowly.

If I came here from another world and knew nothing about the people of the earth, and was looking for a place where the opportunity for change was maximum, I would look for the zero value curves.
And if you look at a current map of the earth's magnetism, you will find a zero-level curve that runs along the West Coast of North America, rising along the coast of California to that of Alaska. In other words, magnetism along the West Coast is almost nil!

When we think of the West Coast, we think of the crazy California.

Well, the truth is that California is a seed, one of several, and has traditionally been very innovative in technology, science, fashion, finance and arts, because there is a tremendous change opportunity there.
Within North America, the counterpart of this would be the zone of maximum magnetism, in which the magnetic fields are the densest. And you find it inside some southern states, the same states traditionally considered conservative.

This does not mean that there can be no change there. Instead, what it points out is that this change takes much longer and people have to see a truly good reason to get out of what they were always doing.

So, where the magnetic field is less dense, are people more open to what arises at the moment?

It is open to change, period. That does not mean that the change is neither good nor bad, neither right nor wrong. It is important to be clear about this. The conscience of the people will be what determines how that change will occur.

I will give an ironic example. There is a zero level curve that runs right in the middle of the Middle East. It actually runs almost directly over the Suez Canal area, passing just over Israel, all along the Red Sea coast.

Yes, right in that area there is a zero level curve. This suposes that the zone is destined to change. But again, the way in which change comes - whether peaceful and constructive or angry and destructive - will be determined by the conscience of the people who live there.

So this is neither good nor bad?

Exact. Simply is just an opportunity for the change. At the same time, the highest level of magnetism curves of all those on planet earth have traditionally been over parts of the former Soviet Union, Russia and Siberia.

We know that a stationary system has been located in that part of the world and that, when some change has taken place, it has been slow and painful, long-term and has occurred with much suffering. But when it has happened, it has produced a waterfall effect, it has been almost overnight.
Therefore, the correlations between human consciousness, opportunities for innovation, for change, to do things in a new way, and the magnetism of our world, are very interesting.
The Earth has many regions of high and low potential for change.

What is the best way to face the changes that are taking place in our world as a whole.

It will be as concise as I can. I think the answer to that is perhaps best encrypted in the words who preceded us, the ancient Essenes, in a text that is more than 2, 500 years old.
It reminds us of our relationship with the world around us, and simply says that our world is nothing more and nothing less than a mirror of what we have become within ourselves.
Therefore, when we contemplate from that perspective a world that seems cruel, mindless and colouric, that produces suffering to our sisters and brothers across the planet, that world is a mirror of what we have become as individuals., families, societies and nations.

It is not good or bad, nor right or wrong. It is simply a reflection of who we are. The condition of the planet is a feedback mechanism.

So, if we want to see changes in our world, we must become that change in our daily lives. If we want to see peace, tolerance, understanding, compassion and loss on a global level, we must become that. On the dinner table. With our families We must convert to that in our schools.

We must ask that we be entertained through peace, compassion and understanding. That doesn't have to be tedious or boring. It can still be exciting, but it doesn't have to be brutal, mindless, cruel or ruthless.

In our daily lives, at every moment of every day, we make the choice that denies or affirms life in our bodies. Because we are linked through this grid. All our individual choices are deposited in that collective response to our future.

If we want to see a collective change, we have to become that change individually.

We have this date of 2012 in which many people are saying that it is time for global change or Ascension. What do you think will happen?

The date of 2012 is interesting because it appears in the Mayan and Egyptian traditions, in some Christian traditions and, even, in the biblical code (which is, in itself, something very controversial).

I have a feeling that this date could be any date. If we focus on a date and live our lives preparing for the change on that date, we lose our lives.

From my point of view it is enough that we simply limit ourselves to living to the fullest every day, with which we reconcile the experiences that cross our path every day, with which we take advantage of the opportunities to honor the life, to honor our mutual relationships.

Being honest, trustworthy, considerate, caring and compassionate, living this every day, we are already prepared for anything that could possibly come in 2012 or any other day of another year or at any time of our future

I know people who are living their lives keeping containers full of food and ammunition, preparing for the day when our world changes. I understand, and I think it's okay to be self-sufficient. I understand what they are expresing.

But what I also see is that they dedicate too much of their lives to prepare for that day and they lose the beauty and mystery of life that unfolds every day. To perceive that beauty and that mystery is what prepares us for the greatest challenges!

So basically, if what we want is to take advantage of this change with the best possible positive result for us, the key is that we live each day giving us maximum love and compassion?

Yes, and for that to happen, we have to live each day consciously. Be aware of the opportunities. Recognize the opportunities that come to pass. Every day we are offered the opportunity to be tolerant of other belief systems, to forgive someone who has hurt or angered us, to amend our judgments about what should or should not happen in our world.

If we can reconcile all those things when they cross us and consciously handle them at that moment, knowing that by changing the way we feel we change the chemistry of our body, we will be prepared for any transition that the earth will go through.

Source: Alternative Blog

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